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Sandy Hook Truthers

January 16, 2013

Salon (click here and here) and Gawker have been covering the rise of the Sandy Hook Truth movement, which has already built up a considerable head of steam. Not coincidentally, many of its pioneers cut their teeth making 911 Truth videos; their learning curve is less steep this time around, and their memes are propagating more quickly.

The story they tell points to shadowy forces (Illuminati, Mossad/Rothschild/Obama agents, gun control advocates) who conspired to kill (or pretended to kill) a bunch of school children, using Mind Control, psychotropic medicines, and trained assassins. They embedded clues to their intentions in Batman movies and The Hunger Games books (whose author lives in Newtown), but botched the roll out of their disinformation campaign so egregiously that anyone with access to a modem can pick it to pieces. The “parents” of the “victims” are terrible actors–and the producers of the extravaganza carelessly allowed one of those “victims” to pose with the president. The additional gunmen (the Jack Rubys whose job it was to kill the patsy/witnesses) got themselves caught on video, etc.

Second Amendment extremists are tuned into this, of course, but they overlap with a much larger universe–the neo-Birchers, Ron Paulites, and self-described anarchists that make up Alex Jones’ audience, the hard racist right, and the usual run of Protocols of the Elders of Zion anti-Semites (Veterans Today explains how the killings were Israeli revenge for Obama’s insufficient support). At least one mainstream broadcaster, Ben Swann of Fox19 in Cincinatti, has linked Newtown to the mass shootings in Aurora, Colorado and Oak Creek, Wisconsin, as “false flags.”

The people who made the video at the top of this post (which has been watched by some 5 million people) are motivated by politics to a certain extent, but by sheer gamesmanship as well, from the sound of what they told Gawker:

“[I]t all started when me and my friends used to research 9/11 in high school,” the auteur behind the video told me over email. (He declined to give me a name or personal information, “due to the sensitivity of the channel and my concern for my security,” and signed his emails T.O.T.V., after his YouTube channel’s title “ThinkOutsidetTheTV.”) “That’s what really got me started when it came to researching government cover ups [...] Once I learned about all the false flag attacks in history that have been proven to be true, I knew it was only a matter of time before another came a long”…..”When Sandy Hook first happened i just had a feeling like it was all too perfect,” T.O.T.V. continued. “I just had this feeling deep down that these people and the whole town had this artificial vibe about them.” The perceived “artificiality” of the grieving parents is a cornerstone piece of “evidence” produced by Sandy Hook Truther: SandyHookHoax.com, the premiere Sandy Hook Truther site on the web, has an entire section called “All Actors,” under an enormous header reading “NO TEARS,” devoted to videos of families deemed insufficiently grief-stricken.

Newtown is not something to grieve or fear but a puzzle to solve. Its victims aren’t victims at all. Everything that sheds doubt on the theory is disinformation; everything else is proof.

To quote my own CULTS, CONSPIRACIES AND SECRET SOCIETIES: “Though conspiracists invariably describe themselves as hard-boiled types, skeptical, unillusioned, and cynical to the core, there is much that is reassuring and optimistic in their worldview. Conspiracists believe in prophecy; they have a congenital distaste for shadings, nuances, and uncertainties. However Mannichaean their world might be, however Gnostic in its manifold deceptions and depravities, ultimately it is a profoundly meaningful place. Not only do its events admit of neat explanations; salvation remains a distinct possibility. The day of reckoning will come, they believe, when they can convince enough ‘sheeple’ to see through the enemy’s ‘big lies.’ Truth and justice will have their day.”

18 Comments leave one →
  1. czarinaalex permalink
    January 16, 2013 11:16 am

    I go to political chat and I see these conspiracists there and I have actually given them some legitimate information in terms of government malefeasance and overstep. But they really are not interested in that -they really gravitate toward their foregone conclusions and what feeds that. Yes government over reaches -yes there are influential people who are on the top of buisiness and government who run things -indeed. But to them it all has to be interconnected witjh nonsensical old stories-otherwise they don’t care about it. Case in point-someone was talking about 3-D printing which is in its early stages but has been used for replication of certain parts and components of large things in some sort of plastic. Well to hear these people-they are saying people are printing guns and cars. Granted this stuff will be more sophisticated at some point -but not yet. Actually I was wondering when they were going to connect Hurricaine SANDY with SANDY Hook and see what all that meant.

    • C.Bukowski permalink
      January 18, 2013 11:33 am

      It’s like these clowns will find anything remotely plausible (and that’s even strecthing it) to validate their extremist views and outlandish conspiracy theories.

      • czarinaalex permalink
        January 18, 2013 12:22 pm

        Hey Charlie long time -no see! That is the essence of paranoic conspriracy exactly-they take the remotely plausible and stretch and validate it. That is how they can connect everything and everyone anyone has heard of from the beginning of time to the present and actually the future!LOL

  2. blissentia permalink
    March 26, 2013 10:42 pm

    Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories: http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.co.uk/2011/01/let-us-never-tolerate-outrageous.html

  3. March 27, 2013 8:27 am

    The problem with that quote is it comes from George W. Bush. There is a line between finding out the truth and conspiracy theories. There are lots of good questions about things done or not done in the Bush administration that remain unanswered however -it is very convenient to Bush and his pals to relegate everything to conspiracy theories.

    • blissentia permalink
      March 28, 2013 7:40 pm

      Speaking of “conspiracy theories” – much of the argument against it does not deal with the whole scope of the argument. For instance – Arthur prefers to pretend that conspiratorial criticism of Jews is a “canard” stemming from the Protocols of Zion “forgery” (the parallel passages to Joly’s text amount to only around 16% – see Peter Myers’ critique of Norman Cohn at mailstar.net/toolkit.html). He forgets or ignores that the Jewish religion itself advocates World Domination – see the plethora of passages in the old testament showing this.

      Eruvin 43b of the Talmud also states that “When the Messiah comes all will be slaves to Israel”: http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.com/2011/09/all-will-be-slaves-to-israel.html

      Goldwag might cry “fraud” – but the source is given, and I have preserved it.

      In Goldwag’s critique of “hate” he seems to miss the terrible legacy of such anti-Gentilism and the effects it had throughout history.

      Chaim Weizmann also confirmed that political Zionism was essentially identical to the organization described in the protocols – referring to Jews as a people who, if they did not get their way, would become a “destructive force that would overthrow the world”: http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/international-jewry-is-power-after-all.html

      Many Zionist leaders have admitted that their desire is “empire” (Herzl) or to “conquer the world” (Wolffsohn). Zionist leadershave “predicted” wars YEARS in advance (Nordau) – and even preplanned the Nuremberg trials (Goldmann). And the Secretary of the World Zionist organization, Samuel Landman, gave a corroboration of Benjamin Freedman’s account: http://mailstar.net/landman.html

      As did Chaim Weizmann in correspondence with Churchill: http://archive.org/details/ZionismAndTheWorldWars

      Arthur Goldwag’s main source is Ernie Lazar – a man who uses poisoning the well tactics to try and discredit “extreme rightists”. At times, this will involve omitting items that corroborate “extreme rightists” – creating a distorted presentation.

      For instance – Ernie knew that Leon Trotsky referred to the Bavarian Illuminati as the “forerunner of revolution” in ch. 8 of “My Life” – this vindicates a whole line of “anti-Illuminati” literature that he lists in such a way as to ridicule it. I have refuted the essentials of Ernie’s argument in a response to his review of “None Dare Call It Conspiracy”: http://www.amazon.com/review/RIB6V58AZBQS6/ref=cm_cr_rev_detmd_pl?ie=UTF8&asin=0899666612&cdForum=Fx2MIQ3RDLJ8R0A&cdMsgID=Mx3NLFQ3JHDW4P6&cdMsgNo=351&cdPage=36&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=Tx2WBCNXSFFGZ5D&store=books#Mx3NLFQ3JHDW4P6

      He might try to use poisoning the well statements against me – but for now he has not responded. It should also be known that although I have made extremist statements in the past as the weight of this information emotionally disturbed me for a while, I have completely redacted any such approach or position – yet the information still stands.

      Furthermore, Arthur Goldwag has read Douglas Reed, one of the more cogent “conspiracy theorists”, but has not dealt with the full scope of the information he presented, insted writing him off as an “anti-Semite”, as if that disproved anything.

      Appeal to ridicule is a sophist tactic, posioning the well is a sophist tactic.

      • March 31, 2013 10:13 pm

        Does Arthur Goldwag have a response to this?

        Is he willing to update his views in light of new information presented?

  4. Arthur Goldwag permalink*
    March 31, 2013 10:49 pm

    There are even more chauvinistic passages in the Talmud than the ones you quoted and anyone can assemble a rogues gallery of Jewish bigots and banksters. I’m not the knee-jerk defender of Zionism that you suppose me to be, but neither do I have any patience with programmatic Jew-hatred. So no, I’m not going to “update” my views on the basis of your “new” information.

    • April 1, 2013 12:54 am

      If your desire is for an undivided humanity, I agree with that.

      I am opposed to hasty generalization fallacies.

      I just believe that you are ignoring the extremism and hate of the power elite, and (sometimes unjustifiably) focusing mostly on counter-revolutionary extremism.

    • April 1, 2013 1:30 am

      I have never had any issue with anyone over race. My view (and I am willing to admit that I may be mistaken) is that the extremism and hate of powerful people, which I feel has drastic consequences, goes ignored at our peril. This is based on citations from the writings of the people I am critiquing – and I have tried to be as assiduous as possible – making the primary source available. A quote I like very much is “Hate cannot be destroyed by Hate, Violence by Violence, since one breeds the other in an ongoing chain; the only way to resolve these matters, to break the chain, is by bringing the whole matter out into the open.”

      My desire is for an undivided humanity, and I want to put a stop to the ideas (not people or groups of people) that stand against that. Many people are vessels for such ideas, and I wish to point out another direction – but without causing another evil in action against them.

      I have attempted to reduce the styles of extremism and hate that are counter to the ones I critiqued on your blog elsewhere. My view though is that such “counter-revolutionary” movements are at this time of no threat though, and the other movements are.

  5. Arthur Goldwag permalink*
    April 1, 2013 1:56 am

    Sure, there’s nothing hateful about the Protocols (your quote is not from the Protocols themselves but from the introduction to an on-line edition, I know). What’s hateful about a pseudo-document that purports to prove that a whole religion and culture is just a front for a plot to conquer the world?

    • April 1, 2013 2:27 am

      That was from a website that attempts to give the most thorough refutation of Norman Cohn and the like – many items he brings up are relevant (he was linked to above). His position is that they describe the position of Zealots leading certain political movements, and not an entire people. He has also attempted to debunk “holocaust deniers” (some of his positions make sense, others I find difficult – I will wait until Carlo Mattogno comes out with his latest book and see if he addresses those items), so I don’t think he can easily be classified as a “rabid anti-Semite”.

      And in looking at such things, it is helpful to look at the statements made by Zionist leaders. In a Zionist gathering in 1922, the Zionist leader Nahum Sokolow stated that “The League of Nations is a Jewish idea and Jerusalem some day will become the capital of the world’s peace.” He went further, stating that “Jews throughout the world will make the League’s struggle our own and will not rest until there is ultimate victory.”: http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F40D13FF3B5D1A7A93CAAB1783D85F468285F9

      David ben Gurion would say similar things about the United Nations: http://mailstar.net/tmf.html

      But other Zionist leaders and spokespersons have made no effort to conceal their less than peaceful aims and tactics:

      Martin Levi van Creveld, professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, wrote: “We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force…. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.”: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/sep/21/israelandthepalestinians.bookextracts

      of interest is “Geneva versus Peace” (Sheed & Ward, New York, 1937), in which Comte de Saint-Aulaire, French Ambassador to Great Britain in the 1920s, discussed his meetings with Kuhn, Loeb, & Co. financiers. They had discussions regarding why they [the Kuhn, Loeb, & Co. bankers] financed the Bolshevik Revolution. One of them said (p. 80): “You say that Marxism is the very antithesis of capitalism, which is equally sacred to us. It is precisely for this reason that they are direct opposites to one another, that they put into our hands the two poles of this planet and allow us to be its axis. These two contraries, like Bolshevism and ourselves, find their identity in the International. These opposites, which are at the antipodes to one another in society and in their doctrines meet again in the identity of their purpose and end, the remaking of the world from above by the control of riches, and from below by revolution. … Our mission consists in promulgating the new law and in creating a God, that is to say in purifying the idea of God and realizing it, when the time shall come. We shall purify the idea by identifying it with the nation of Israel, which has become its own Messiah. the advent of it will be facilitated by the final triumph of Israel, which has become it’s own Messiah.” This same financier also said (pp. 83-84): “… our essential dynamism makes use of the forces of destruction and forces of creation, but uses the first to nourish the second. … Our organization for revolution is evidenced by destructive Bolshevism and for construction by by the League of Nations which is also our work. Bolshevism is the accelerator and the League is the brake on the mechanism of which we supply both the motive force and the guiding power. What is the end? It is already determined by our mission. It is formed of elements scattered throughout the whole world, but cast in the flame of our faith in ourselves. We are a League of Nations which contains the elements of all others. …Israel is the microcosm and the germ of the City of the future.”: http://archive.org/download/LesDerniersJoursDesRomanof/Geneva-Versus-Peace.pdf

      The text “Red Symphony” offers similar understandings: http://mailstar.net/red-symphony.html

      According to the January 16, 1920 edition of the Judische Rundschau (Jewish Review) a Zionist newspaper published in Berlin: During a speech in Jerusalem in December 1919, Chaim Weizmann, who months later would become president of the World Zionist Organization, stated the following:

      “Lloyd George once said: I know the Palestinian front much better than I know the French front, for every patch of land and every stream is familiar to me from the Bible. Palestine is, above all, a matter of the Bible for England. The English believe in the Bible more than many groups in Jewry. Thus, first came the idealistic grounds [for the decision to issue the Balfour Declaration], and only afterwards the material. We are the ones who have made clear to the English political leadership that it was in England’s interest to join with us, to spread the British protectorate over Palestine. We reached the [Balfour] Declaration not by miracles, but through persistent propaganda, through unceasing demonstration of the life force of our people. We told the responsible authorities: We will establish ourselves in Palestine whether you like it or not. You can hasten our arrival or you can equally retard it. It is however better for you to help us so as to avoid our constructive powers being turned into a destructive power which will overthrow the world.

      We demand neither a charter nor concessions, but rather a complete national edifice that meets the following preconditions: the right to acquisition of ownerless land, the facilitation of land acquisition in general, the prerogative of developing public works, complete autonomy in the spiritual and intellectual sphere, and last not least, a direct influence upon the English administration in the territory. The regulation of immigration by us is, for us, likewise an unconditional demand.”: http://www.winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.com/2013/03/international-jewry-is-power-after-all.html

      This occurs on p. 4 of this Jüdische Rundschau edition (No. 4). The archive of this paper is here: http://www.compactmemory.de/index_p.aspx?ID_0=30

      Of course, the notion of “ownerless land” is a Zionist propaganda myth refuted by Ralph Schoenman in ch. II of “The Hidden History of Zionism”: http://takingaimradio.com/hhz/ch02.htm

      In his Complete Diaries, Vol. II. p. 711, Theodore Herzl, the official founder of Zionism, stated that the planned area of the Jewish State stretched: “From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates”: http://mailstar.net/herzl.jpg

      Theodore Herzl himself stated, on p. 91 of “The Jewish State”, corroborating Weizmann’s threat – “When we sink, we become a revolutionary proletariat, the subordinate officers of all revolutionary parties; and at the same time, when we rise, there rises also our terrible power of the purse.”: http://mailstar.net/herzl-jewish-state-90-1.jpg

      On p. 99 of that text, he stated “The first official violation of Jewish liberties invariably brings about economic crisis. Therefore no weapons can be effectually used against us, because these cut the hands that wield them.”: http://books.google.com/books?id=7cNJAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA99&dq=The+first+official+violation+of+Jewish+liberties+invariably+brings+about+economic+crisis.&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YHg9UaSPKsqAygHF04HACQ&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=The%20first%20official%20violation%20of%20Jewish%20liberties%20invariably%20brings%20about%20economic%20crisis.&f=false

      The motives underlying the Zionist ambition are lucidly expressed in a 1907 New York times article concerning David Wolffsohn’s address to the Zionist congress of the time period: http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FB0D16FD3C5A15738DDDAB0A94D0405B878CF1D3 “Dr. David Wolffsohn of Cologne delivered the closing speech. He dwelt upon the success of the Congress, which, for the first time and in spite of divergence of opinion, had, he said, united in support of the idea if proceeding by political action to practical work for the deliverance of the poor Jewish people. Dr. Wolffsohn declared that the Jewish people must yet conquor [sic] the world.”

      This was repeated in the New York Times upon Wolffsohn’s death, when it recorded the following: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F70913FA3D5C13738DDDAE0994D1405B848DF1D3 “In his closing address he pleaded for greater unity among the Jews and said that eventually they must conquer the world.”

      This is why I stated – “My view though is that such “counter-revolutionary” movements are at this time of no threat though [sic], and the other movements are.”

      As far as my general philosophy related to political grievances, it is best summed up by the following citation: http://www.jiddu-krishnamurti.net/en/the-first-and-last-freedom/1953-00-00-jiddu-krishnamurti-the-first-and-last-freedom-introduction

      • April 3, 2013 2:58 pm

        This may be disturbing – I know that. It may create cognitive dissonance. However, knowledge is power, and with the knowledge given, you have an incentive to make a stand against the deplorable situation described.

  6. April 9, 2013 4:59 am

    Carl Jung had a few important comments that clarify what I am doing, but on a macrosocial level: “The Shadow describes the part of the psyche that an individual would rather not acknowledge. It contains the denied parts of the self. Since the self contains these aspects, they surface in one way or another. Bringing Shadow material into consciousness drains its dark power, and can even recover valuable resources from it. The greatest power, however, comes from having accepted your shadow parts and integrated them as components of your Self. Everyone carries a Shadow, and the less it is embodied in the individual’s conscious life, the blacker and denser it is. At all counts, it forms an unconscious snag, thwarting our most well-meant intentions.”

    And as he also noted, “One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious.”

    I’m doing shadow work for society.

    The point about what I am putting forth is that in your comments about extremism and hate, you should really look in the mirror, or stop covering up for those you are covering up for. Perhaps you should thake on the position of Dr. Oscar Levy, who dissociated himself from Jewish destructive activities, and stated, in the prefatory letter to “The World Significance of the Russian Revolution” by George Pitt-Rivers:
    “We have erred, my friend, we have most grievously erred. … We who have posed as the saviours of the world, we who have even boasted of having given it “the” Saviour, we are today nothing else but the world’s seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its executioners. … We who have promised to lead you to a new Heaven, we have finally succeeded in landing you in a new Hell. … And yet we are not all Financiers, we are not all Bolshevists, we have not all become Zionists. … our last word is not yet spoken, our last deed is not yet done, our last revolution is not yet made. This last Revolution, the Revolution that will crown our revolutionaries, will be the revolution against the revolutionaries. … when the values of death and decay are put into the melting pot to be changed into those of power and beauty, then you, my dear Pitt-Rivers, the descendant of an old and distinguished Gentile family, may be assured to find by your side, and as your faithful ally, at least one member of that Jewish Race, which has fought with such fatal success upon all the spiritual battlefields of Europe.” (pp. x-xi, xiii): http://ia600603.us.archive.org/22/items/TheWorldSignificanceOfTheRussianRevolution/48920297-Rivers-The-World-Significance-of-the-Russian-Revolution.pdf

    My site where I delve into this further is the following:

    http://bensteigmann.blogspot.com/2013/04/disclaimer.html

  7. April 29, 2013 4:20 pm

    Arthur, you have ignored what I gave you, which fundamentally refutes your worldview.

    In spite of that, I would like to express my gratitude to you. I love you.

    Thank you for having been a part of my evolution.

    – Ben Steigmann

  8. April 29, 2013 6:07 pm

    And finally, I can understand your lack of reply. It is difficult when idols are smashed. But it is an important part of our development. I have had my idols smashed, and as an expression of my love, I am returning the favor.

    In addition to smashing external idols, it is important to smash internal idols. The following, I feel, does that quite nicely: http://www.gurdjieff.org/salzmann3.htm

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